Live Blog: The Jaycee Dugard Interview
Re-read the live blog from the Jaycee Dugard Interview and viewer comments submitted to ABC7NEWS.com on Twitter and Facebook.
The special resumes with video footage of Jaycee and her mother on the beach. Jaycee said her little sister taught her how to drive for the first time.
"I do drive. I drive very safely," Jaycee said through giggles, adding that the first time she tried, she double-parked.
Jaycee gives Diane a necklace to wear, the kind she sells through her foundation. Jaycee said she's looking toward her GED, and possibly college.
"I want to find love one day, the kind of love I read about," Jaycee wrote in her book. When Diane asked if she still felt that way, she said she wasn't sure."It doesn't seem impossible," Jaycee says.
Jaycee said she'll let her daughters decide for themselves when they're older whether they'd like to read her upcoming book. "Their dad did strange things, and they knew it. They knew their dad." She said, in them, she sees herself, but she doesn't see Phillip.
"I don't see him. They are who they are, and they're so beautiful. I'm very proud to be a grandma. I love those girls," Jaycee's mother Terry Probyn said.
Nancy Garrido was sentenced for 43 years. Phillip Garrido was sentenced 431 years and sits on the same prison row as Charles Manson. Phillip sits in a cell with a tiny window. "You can't steal anything else. You can't steal our love for each other. Couldn't take that away," Jaycee said when asked if she'd want to say anything to Phillip should he be watching the ABC News special.
Terry Probyn ends the special with a message to viewers:
"Take a minute for your kids. Do that extra thing. May be an inconvenience to you, but it's important to them," Terry says.
"Life is too short to think about the things you don't have...even if it is just one thing or person you have to be thankful for, that is enough," Jaycee reads from her book.
Diane thanks viewers for watching the special. Before the show fades to black, she shows her pinecone necklace that Jaycee gave her during the taping of the special.
Facebook user Justin Palin: "I praise those 2 women at UC Berkeley for their swift actions...they personify the word HERO in every aspect!"
Facebook user Patricia Bourget: "money can't turn back time... may he and his wife and all those parole officers rot in hell"
Twitter user @stevepuma: "Dugard should receive a medal, from the President, for her amazing courage in the face of overwhelming odds."
Facebook user Susan Wenneker: "People must pay attention and if you are in a job of authority DO YOUR DAMN JOB! Shame of those parole officers/deputy sheriffs/et al."
The Jaycee Dugard special returns with a video "California parole officials don't want you to see," ABC's Chris Cuomo says. A bare-chested Phillip Garrido is leading a parole officer through his home on a routine search. The video is shot by Nancy, who is harassing the parole officer. The officer is distracted by cross-talk between Nancy and Phillip, who steers them away from the backyard compound where Jaycee and her two daughters are kept prisoner.
"I think mistakes were made. I think Jayc could have been home a lot sooner had somebody cared enough and slowed down to take a look at what was going on," Jaycee's mother Terry Probyn says.
Chris says Phillip told parole officers that Jaycee and her daughters were the children of his brothers. Parole agents called Phillip's brother and discovered his brother had no children. Parole agents failed to follow up on the information, Chris says.
"He would come in here and he was just rambling. I would tell the girls, 'when you see Phillip, tell him I'm not here,'" a man who purchased business cards from Phillip said. When a neighbor calls 9-1-1 on Phillip, a Contra Costa County sheriff's officer responds. After a brief chat with Phillip, the sheriff's deputy leaves. The sheriff never looked for children in Phillip's backyard, a concern the caller to 9-1-1 had expressed.
In the end, it was two U.C. Berkeley police officers who blew the whistle on Phillip Garrido, not parole agents and not sheriff's deputies.
"I think that it comes down to life experience...being in the right place and the right time. Having all those things made this a happy ending," one U.C. Berkeley police officer said.
Despite 60 missed chances, parole officials congratulated themselves at a press conference held after Phillip and Nancy Garido's arrests.
California paid $20 million to the Dugard family for failing to supervise Phillip Garrido.
"The 18 years that I've list with her. The crap she went through. Nobody can put a price on that. It's not good enough that the Garridos are behind bars and will never see the light of day again. It's not good enough to tell me that change is coming. The battle has just begun," Jaycee's mother Terry Probyn says.
Twitter user @GlamourStylistC: "I cannot believe the parole people took credit when they're the ones who missed the clues 60 TIMES!!!"
Chris Cuomo's report on how the parole officers failed to spot Jaycee Dugard and her two daughters after visiting the Walnut Avenue home 60 times airs.
Chris' report begins with the Phillip Garrido video filmed by Nancy Garrido at a park.
When Phillip was arrested in 2009, Katie Callaway Hall recognized Phillip as the man who raped her. Katie was discovered with Phillip when a police officer found them in a storage shed. Phillip was never put in prison for Katie's rape after a parole board found Phillip was no longer a menace to society.
Brenda Burns, the person who signed off on Phillip's release from prison, is interviewed by a camera crew as she waters her garden. She seems uninterested in speaking with reporters, saying she's not surprised at what human nature can do.
Chris says no alarms went off even after parole officers tore apart Phillip's home, discovering the backyard shed that would eventually house Jaycee prior to her kidnapping.
"A federal parole agent had not only been in the backyard but had been inside what Phillip Garrido called a soundstage, a soundproof room for recording," a federal official said.
A U.S. Department of Justice report found authorities failed to provide adequate monitoring for Phillip Garrido.
Facebook user Rebecca Lancaster: "i can't believe 60 time parole officers where there and did nothing as a registered sex offender he isnt aloud to b around kidz and those lil girls where young enough to have him tooken away.. im glad justice was served just sorry it was soo long in the makeing... jaycee stay strong and keep ur head up.."
Seventy-five minutes into the television special, Jaycee and her mother are interviewed together for the first time.
"I'm thinking...babies, okay, I can deal with this," Jaycee's mother said of the first time she heard about Jaycee's daughters.
"I woke the girls up and I said, I'm so happy, I'm so happy!" Jaycee said when she was told she could see her mother.
Jaycee said life is too short for rage to build inside of her. "I refuse to let him (Phillip) have that. He can't have me," Jaycee said. Jaycee's mother said she has enough hate in her heart "for the both of us." Jaycee said that makes her sad.
Twitter user @GlamourStylistC: "She won't let him have her. Such a beautiful heart she has to not let this ruin her entire life. Amazing"
Twitter user @JashSF: "I want to know more about the nevada parole board that set him free. 50 years! Wtf!"
Facebook user Justin Palin: "I truly pray for Jaycee and her girls...to continue to have the strength to endure for years to come...I hope that Phillip and Nancy Garrido get the ultimate of penalties...death while they are in prison."
The show comes back from commercial break by setting the scene at U.C. Berkeley. It's been 18 years since Jaycee was kidnapped. Phillip hopes by bringing Jaycee and her daughters to U.C. Berkeley that he'll draw more attention to his pamphlet passing-out program. It does draw attention -- the attention of two cops who felt something was off.
"We knew that he was way out there, but we had no way of envisioning how big it was," one U.C. Berkeley police officer said. After chatting with Phillip for a while, they find out he's a sex offender.
"Just how incredible it was that they spoke up. They saved us," Jaycee said of the police offiers.
On August 26th, parole officers order Phillip, Nancy, Jaycee and her two daughters to come into the station for an interview. Phillip confesses first to the kidnapping. Jaycee continues to say her name is Alyssa. A police officer takes her aside and repeatedly asks her for her name.
"She asked for my name again. i said I couldn't say it. I wasn't trying to be difficult. I hadn't said it in 18 years. I told her I would write it down, and that's what I did," Jaycee wrote in her book.
ABC News shows a photo of the piece of paper in which Jaycee, for the first time in 18 years, wrote her name.
Facebook user Patricia Bourgett: "you a very strong person to be able to survive something like that and i hope the rest of your life is full of love and happiness"
Facebook user Shannon Greene: "Am in complete awe of her strength, resilience and seeming normalcy... May Jaycee, her two daughters and her incredible Mother have a long life ahead to be be with and love each other!" =======================================================
The show resumes with a video showing a parole officer going through the home of Phillip and Nancy Garrido. Nancy could be heard taunting the parole officer. Jaycee Dugard is just 30 feet away. One time, Jaycee has a casual conversation with one of the parole officers, but didn't say who she was. The visits were just a few of over 60 visits by parole officers.
"I was Alyssa, after Alyssa Milano," Jaycee said of her new name. As Jaycee grew older, Phillip ordered her not to use her name anymore.
"I don't think it looks like me," Jaycee said after she was shown a photo of an artist's rendering.
Then the big question everyone wants to know: Why didn't Jaycee Dugard ever try to escape when she was being held captive by Phillip and Nancy Garrido?
A therapist said Jaycee was not experiencing Stockholm Syndrome, but rather a form of coping after several years of abuse. "He was a mastermind," the therapist said. "He had a prior rape in which he had held a woman captive and was able to talk a police officer away from the site.
"I'm sure I did, but it wasn't something I felt I could do...the situation felt like -- wasn't an option. I don't know how else to explain it. There was no leaving," Jaycee said when asked by Diane why she didn't leave.
"Maybe, if one of the girls was being hurt. They were safe, I was being told the outside world was being dangerous," Jaycee says.
Jaycee writes about fear of survival "on the outside." The therapist said Phillip convinced Jaycee he was the only one who could keep her safe.
Phillip allowed Jaycee to use a computer with internet access, but told Jaycee that the computer monitored everything she was doing. She said she never bothered to look herself up online out of fear.
Jaycee said she created a makeshift garden and school for her little girls in the compound.
"I only had a fifth grade education, so math wasn't my strongest suit," Jaycee described about the education she gave her children.
Phillip orders Jaycee's daughters to call Nancy their mother, and says Jaycee is now their sister. In Jaycee's diary, she writes about how she wanted to be free.
The show goes to commercial with Diane asking Jaycee, "Did you think about taking those two girls and running?"
Facebook user Suzie Duval: "I live about 5 miles from where this happened in Antioch. It still makes my stomach turn to know she went through all of this."
The show resumes with Diane setting the time: 1,029 days Jaycee has been in captivity. A sketch artist creates an profile of what Jaycee may look like. Her mother holds rummage sales in order to raise money to continue the search for Jaycee.
Jaycee said she learned about sex and pregnancy from television. Phillip said he would read books on how to birth babies and deliver it himself. In August 1994, Jaycee felt a sharp pain. It was then she realized she was in labor, locked in the backyard compound.
"It was terrible pain, I didn't know what was going." Jaycee said. She was in labor for hours without anyone around. Phillip and Nancy Garrido eventually return home and give her codeine. Phillip unwraps the umbilical cord from aroudndthe baby's neck in order to get the baby girl out.
"I felt like I wasn't alone anymore. I had somebody that was mine. I wasn't alone. I knew I could never let anything happen to her. " Jaycee said after seeing her baby for the first time.
Phillip took the baby and prayed that he'd never let anything happen to her. Three years later, Jaycee gave birth to another daughter in the compound.
"I wanted to see her more than anything," Jaycee said of her mother.
Jaycee learns about breast feeding and other care for the newborns from television. Jaycee said Phillip lectured her about theBible and how he is "the chosen one." Phillip constructs "bionic ears," which Jaycee was supposed to use to "tune in" voices he claimed he heard in the walls of the compound.
Facebook user Chris Gulden: "I am in awe of her strength and i think her strength is the best revenge of all. May the the garridos rot in hell."
Facebook user Gene Alejo: "not every victim of child abductions would do share their traumatic experiences. Jaycee is such a brave woman to share what she suffered for 18 years. and btw I agree that the Garridos have twisted minds."
"Very jealous of me for some reason, like I wanted her husband to rape me," Jaycee said of how Nancy felt about her.
When Phillip left the compound for a month for being sent back to prison after failing a drug test, Nancy played the role of jailer rather than letting Jaycee go.
"She wanted to watch a scary movie called The Unborn. It was awful. It was very scary. And then she would leave in the morning and lock the door," Jaycee said of Nancy.
Jaycee said Tigger and Snowy, two kittens, were given to her by Nancy and Phillip, but they mysteriously disappeared. Jaycee was allowed to keep a diary. In it, she wrote that the Garridos paid $200 for a kitten named Eclipse. That kitten also mysteriously disappeared.
Jaycee ended one of her diary entries with her name "Jaycee," which Phillip made her tear out. That was the last time she was allowed to speak or write her name for 18 years.
Jaycee said her mother was her inspiration. "I wanted to see her more than anything. Would she forget me? Being a mom now, I know now that she could never forget about me...when you're a kid, you're easily forgettable."
After several months, the handcuffs finally come off. Easter 1994, Jaycee was brought her first home-cooked meal. It was then she learned she was pregnant. At 13 years old, she was four-and-a-half months pregnant.
The show goes to commercial.
Facebook user Dawn Nelson: "She is so inspirational! Its amazing how you can identify with someone you have never met in your life!"
Twitter user @BionicPrinceMMX: "I agree w/ Jaycee, Garidos have twisted minds. ironic how Philip was singing at a childrens playground. EVIL"
The special resumes with Diane setting the time: Seven months have passed since Jaycee's kidnapping. A follow-up with Jaycee's mother by a local television station shows the family is still keeping up hope.
Jaycee has been moved to a sound-proof room with only a spider to keep her company. Then, Phillip Garrido introduces Nancy Garrido, his wife, to Jaycee. Phillip and Nancy met at Leavenworth Prison in a visiting room. According to Diane, Nancy was the one who pinned Jaycee to the car floor by her legs the day of the kidnapping.
Jaycee said she wanted Nancy to like her. "If she didn't like me, I was afraid I'd get in trouble." Nancy started bringing Jaycee meals and allowed her to watch television.
"She cried too, in some way she's just as manipulative because she would cry," Jaycee said about the seeming apologist Nancy.
"What makes somebody do that in the first place? Take somebody else's child just to satisfy your husband? She's just as evil as Phillip. Very twisted minds," Jaycee said.
Facebook user Sissy Rodriguez Velazquez: "J aycee Dugard, you truly are an amazing Young woman, an inspiration! God Bless you!"
Facebook user Penny Hill: "She is amazing!"
Twitter user @pekelika: "There is only one word described this interview: Angry. U.S. Legal system had failed and affected to all of us. Hope is the best vocabulary of her life. She is so brave and strong girl."
Handcuffs, a bolted door and a dog outside kept Jaycee from leaving Phillip Garrido's compound the first month. Jaycee said she cried every day, fearing the lock and the squeaky pull-out bed the most. After a while, she said she told herself she couldn't cry anymore.
When asked how she stayed sane, Jaycee said "I don't know. I was still alive. There was still hope. Still hope."
Twitter user @msdey: "the grace of God is there for His children. Jaycee is blessed w/ strength. now she is blessed w/ freedom."
Jaycee says Phillip left a stun gun out where she could see it. Jaycee said Phillip used speed and meth, then would dress her up. Phillip had an unusual affinity for cutting out images and pasting them on girls he saw in magazines.
Phillip would make Jaycee listen at the "voices" in the walls. He'd then cry and apologize. Jaycee said he'd tell her that he was an "awful man."
"I had to comfort him?" Jaycee asked.
Prosecutors asked Jaycee Dugard to look at videotapes that Phillip Garrido made. Jaycee agreed during the trial, she says, to make sure other little girls were not brought in by Phillip. Every tape was of her.
As the commercial goes to break, Jaycee talks briefly about Nancy Garrido, who she said is just as twisted as Phillip.
"The toilet was a bucket," Jaycee said, adding that she was never given a toothbrush while living in the Phillip Garrido backyard compound.
Jaycee said she wrote her book for victims of sex abuse who may be too ashamed to speak about their ordeal.
"It is not her shame, those things happened to her, but it's not who she is," Jaycee's therapist said.
Jaycee talks about the first time she was raped. She said Phillip brought her a milkshake and left her in handcuffs.
Twitter user @GlamourStylistC: "Jaycee is such a strong person. Her first interview & she is blowing me away with how much she's been through."
When the interview returns from commercial, a video of Phillip Garrido singing a song, obtained by ABC News from the prosecutor's office, plays. Phillip claimed he could hear sounds. Doctors tried to give him medication and monitoring. In 1972, Phillip was arrested for raping a girl. The case collapsed. Several years later, he raped a woman in a storage unit. Phillip was sentenced to 50 years in prison, but released after serving only a quarter of it. The parole board sent him a letter of commendation, and parole officers visited his home 60 times. Though parole officers made five dozen visits to Phillip's home, they never found Jaycee living in the backyard.
Twitter user @jashsf: "I hope they highlight the law enforcement that saved her on the cal campus. Probably laid off now."
"I felt lonely. I felt so alone," Jaycee said. Then, a piece of video rolls from a 1991 episode of America's Most Wanted. The clip featured Jaycee's mother pleaing for her return home.
Right before the show goes to commercial, Jaycee sings a song about the moon that her and her mother once sang when she was little.
Facebook user Melissa: "Jaycee is great-beautiful, strong, not an ounce of bitterness. Glad she wrote her book--she's right--HIS shame; not hers & she & family has help of that dr."
"He said they were the fuzzy kind so they wouldn't hurt as bad," Jaycee said. The first time she entered the backyard compound, she recalls Phillip Garrido placing handcuffs on her wrists.
"I can still hear it, consciously...some sounds, smells just don't leave you," Jaycee said.
Jaycee said Garrido used a stun gun on her during the kidnapping. "I can't believe we got away with it," Jaycee said she recalls hearing Phillip Garrido saying. Phillip told Jaycee to be quiet when he approached the neighborhood home.
Jayce thinks back to when she was in the fifth grade. She said she wanted to ask her mom if she could have her legs for the upcoming field trip she was planning on going on. "That was the big question on my mind." She describes walking up a hill, looking out for traffic, on her way to school. Her family moved to a South Lake Tahoe community because it was safe -- safe was also the way Jaycee was taught to walk to school.
Twitter user @mrshmrsh: "I am very sorry for what happened to her but I will not bring it into my living room. I will not watch. or read her book."
"Let's get one thing straight. My name is Jaycee Dugard. I was kidnapped by a stranger at age 11, and I want Phillip Garrido to know that I no longer have to keep his secret." A brief excerpt is read from the beginning of Jaycee's new book "A Stolen Life." Jaycee jokes that she drives and does so "very safely." Jaycee says a pine cone she wears around her neck is a "symbol of hope and new beginnings," adding that "there is life after something tragic."
The show starts off with a brief recap of the Jaycee Dugard story. Along with the interview, Diane Sawyer spoke with Jaycee Dugard's mother and Chris Cuomo is investigating how for 18 years Jaycee fell through the cracks.
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